Thursday, October 11, 2007

Pahoff trolls AppliedH!

Oh yeah, almost forgot to report that Geoff Pahoff has trolled the ‘hate-infused universe’ thread by assuming the fake identity of one AB Knox in order to mislead, disrupt, and all the usual stuff.

Pahoff trolls??” I hear you ask. “Why is this news???

And you’d be right. Yawn.

But what’s remarkable is that the ‘hate-infused universe’ thread has, in a single day, assembled such diverse blog identities as Pahoff/Knox (who also put in an anonymous appearance), Harry Heidelberg and Craig Rowley.

Think of it! Such an assembly all on the same thread is not only weird, but I’d wager is a phenomenon that will probably not be duplicated in the blogosphere.

Never. Ever. Not ever.

But is this news??” I hear you ask.

And you’d have a point...



After posting this entry this morning, someone calling himself ‘Alison Knox’ (and then simply ‘Alison’) began posting comments on the ‘hate-infused universe’ thread at 11:06am.

The IP address obtained from Sitemeter indicates that this comment was posted from the same computer that was used by ‘Anonymous’ to dump Pahoff’s puerile ‘Shotgun Stam’ ditty on the same thread at 1:51pm yesterday.

Pathetic. Yawn.



Anonymous Craig Rowley said...

David Davis (using his "Harry Heidelberg 'nym) said of me: "Over the years you have made it your mission to sniff out who is really who on the internet. You mostly get it wrong but it is certainly your special interest topic."

Everyone please note that in the case of the Pahoff/ab know/anonymous trolling of AppliedH you can chalk up another one on the "not wrong" side of the ledger.

11/10/07 1:31 PM  
Anonymous alison said...

Dear me, Mr Jacob,

As it happens, the computer is not the only thing I share with geoff. For many years now. And the name spellings? A private joke between Pohoof and me. Something you wouldn't understand.

You're not going to come out with something sexist now, are you Mr Jacob? To add to your racist slurs?

11/10/07 1:48 PM  
Blogger Jacob A. Stam said...

So you sent your woman over to lie and troll for you, Joffa?

What a guy!

Have the folks at club chaos met 'Alison'? Maybe they should...

11/10/07 2:22 PM  
Anonymous alison said...

"So you sent your woman over to lie and troll for you, Joffa?"

Dear me, Mr Jacob,

Geoff said you would come out with something sexist if I made a comment. Right again! The bastard.

11/10/07 4:24 PM  
Anonymous alison said...

alison said...
Well dearie dearie dearie me. Look what I found at Harry's. Admittedly with a little help from Paahoaf.

"Whatever, Geoff, no-one's denying anything. There's plenty of strands of madness all 'round. Or is this meant to be 'cute'?

Posted by: Jacob | Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 08:56

"Before noon, two civilians were killed during a protest held in Gaza City under the banner "Stop the Killing." Some 1,000 Palestinians marched in the city, calling for an end to the fighting, but when they approached a Hamas position, militants fired at the protesters, killing two."

Seems to me pretty clear where the hate is.

... a degenerate human civilisation off the rails and heading for oblivion.

Otherwise known as Islamofascism. It will crash eventually. Hate-driven dysfunctional political cultures gripped by deathcults, apocalyptic, closed belief systems and a savage, murderous, all consuming contempt for all others and objective truth always do. Cultures come and go. They are selected against as ruthlessly as a failed species experiment of nature.

The only question is how many human lives it will take in the meantime.

Posted by: Geoff Pahoff | Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 08:39


Well what can I say? Two weeks after the post Mr Jacob picked on with the "civilisation off the rails" comment which he twisted into "slandering a whole people" it seems the phrase came up again! And was its meaning was clearly laid out again! And Mr Jacob made it clear he was NOT DENYING geoff's point!

And yet four months later he twists it to make it look like a racist comment or hatespeak.

Tell me Mr Jacob. Don't you feel just a little .. ah .. tacky?

11/10/07 2:33 PM

alison said...
URL thingie here

11/10/07 2:36 PM

11/10/07 4:26 PM  
Anonymous Jacob said...

As if anyone's bothered, but here's me "picking up on" Pahoff's "degenerate human civilisation" remark weeks and weeks and weeks before Pahoff reckons I picked up on it:

Then again, maybe the world is becoming inured to this sort of thing. We hear so many propagandists ranting hate-speak about a degenerate human civilisation off the rails and heading for oblivion, such incidents have perhaps become unremarkable.

Posted by: Jacob | Wednesday, 20 June 2007 at 23:32

Strange how you missed that, Pahoff, since it's on the same thread as the stuff you've been selectively quoting. But then your selectivity is well-known.

Not so strange, however, that you seized the opportunity of my leaving club chaos to pounce with your spurious claims that I called you a "racist".

Same old Pahoff slime, just a different day.

11/10/07 4:32 PM  
Anonymous Jacob said...

Oddly enough, sitemeter indicates that the IP address Pahoff/'Alison' is using entered this page from the link I left at club chaos. Spooky.

11/10/07 4:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Whatever, Geoff, no-one's denying anything."

Posted by: Jacob | Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 08:56

11/10/07 5:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The most interesting thing here is that the opinion that terrorism, internecine violence, poverty, superstitious and backward world views and islamofascism have their roots in the thoroughly dysfunctional off the rails societies of that part of the world, and to blame the West or Israel. is quite simply mad, is hardly unique. The same could have been said of the degenerate civilisations of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. There are many many people who share that opinion in one form or another.

Yet it is impossible to express any element of this opinion without some shallow half trained ignoramus like Stam jumping out of the
wall cracks and pointing and shouting "racist" or "hatespeak".

Fuck off Stam. These are important matters to be discussed and you're not qualified to take part.

11/10/07 6:09 PM  
Anonymous Jacob said...

Whatever, Geoff, no-one's denying anything. There's plenty of strands of madness all 'round. Or is this meant to be 'cute'?

Posted by: Jacob | Thursday, 21 June 2007 at 08:56

Typically, no acknowledgement or response either way. Pahoff already has his mind made up. That kind of thing is why I've suggested that you are a bigot, including on WD as you'll no doubt recall.

But to get to the nub of your idiotic grievance, how in the hell does any of this support your ranting on 3 or 4 blogs about me calling you a "racist"???


Awww, I see the little dweeb has toddled off back to his fellow travellers.

11/10/07 6:12 PM  
Anonymous harry heidelberg said...

The Pahoff-Stam hatespeak wars.

11/10/07 7:59 PM  
Blogger Jacob A. Stam said...

Seems the only person "qualified" to save the world also happens to be a fraud and prevaricator.

All excused, of course, by the purity of his cause. God save the world from zealots whose ways are sanctified by the purity of their cause. Raskolnikov lives.

11/10/07 8:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

*Yawn* Does it really matter, and does anyone really care?

Honestly Jacob havent you got anything better to spend your time on then this incessant, mindless and ultimately futile exercise?


11/10/07 11:45 PM  
Blogger Jacob A. Stam said...

Tony, I think it's (as you'd say) "interesting" that you don't ask Guff the same question.

Why don't you ask your mate why he took several hours to compose his idiotic little 'Shotgun Stam' ditty the other day?

Why aren't you asking your mate why he put so much effort into that?

Why aren't you asking your mate why he has bloodywell trolled and trolled for days on this blog?

Why aren't you asking your mate why he spends so much of his time on "this incessant, mindless and ultimately futile exercise"?

Are you afraid of your mate?

Afraid of rejection?

What's your problem with my little blog?

If you search yourself for these answers, Tony, they may come.

It took, in total, about 45-60 minutes of my time today to run this blog. (I'm pleased beyond measure, by the way, that it has presented for you a momentary amusement.)

The rest of my day was spent in productive work (which, I note, you don't ask your mate about), leisure time with family, ablutions, and so on, while keeping half an eye peeled for what new heights of farce will issue from this little portal.

Seek and ye shall find, Tony. Good night and good luck.

12/10/07 12:22 AM  
Anonymous Harry Heidelberg said...

I think it is because Geoff is retired he has more time.

I took 2005 off and that gave me heaps of time on my blog etc. Also at different times I have travelled a lot and I always had a laptop with me. This meant I would blog furiously in aiprort lounges etc etc.

These days, I refuse to carry a laptop. Now when in an airport lounge I just stare blankly into space (the thousand yard stare).

Also now I am quite busy during the day.

On the other hand it is amazing how much you can type in an hour or so.

I tend to get up early so often write quite a bit early in the morning.

I remember a time when I used to write pieces for my own blog. I lost interest in doing that a long time ago. Now all I do is comment and post pictures.

I really can't be arsed with a lot of this stuff.

It just becomes interesting when you see these weird little wars. It's like watching a car wreck. You know you shouldn't but you can't help but check. Check and comment.

I think Jacob is a mainstream leftie and Geoff is a rightie but with a particular bent. This bent means that if certain topics are raised, he goes feral.

I do think the valid point Geoff makes is how blind the left can be.

That's when I went feral on my own blog recently. When you brought Bush into Burma.

It struck me as sick as when Hitler would bring the Jews into any societal ill. When the discourse becomes so sick that any ill is associated with one nationality (eg the Americans), then it is a clear indication that a distorting hatred is at play.

When two hatreds collide we see fireworks.

All that aside though, it's true that Geoff has been remarkably busy.

12/10/07 5:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shotgun Stam

I’ve sucked down a dungy deal of dirt through out my worthless life
With all my grand accomplishments I couldn't tell left from right,
The thing I most excel in is shepherding the fascist to the fight,
A noise all over the 'net for sure, but ne'er an honest opinion in my own name.

For Shotgun Stam is my name, Rooting for the bullies is my game
For sucking up islamofascist lies, any degenerate regime will do,
Shotgun Stam is my name, pissing on democracies is my game
Good enough for Damo, Dork and all of them boys, and you can bet for sure you know Roslyn Ross too.

The way I gain’d my title’s by a hobby which I’ve got,
Of never letting a critic of my nazi mates pass without a shot,
Whosoever thinks for themselves are treated all the same;
You don't like terrorists, tyants, slavers and the filthy stew that spawns them?
I've got nothing to say to you, you filthy racist slime.

For Shotgun Stam is my name, Rooting for the bullies is my game
For sucking up islamofascist lies, any degenerate regime will do,
Shotgun Stam is my name, pissing on democracies is my game
Good enough for Damo, Dork and all of them boys, and you can bet for sure you know Roslyn Ross too.

12/10/07 9:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"idiotic little 'Shotgun Stam' ditty "

shheeesh. Tough crowd tonight. Everybody has to be a critic. What do you expect for your money?

Andrew Lloyd Webber?

12/10/07 9:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jacob, the reason I don't ask Geoff the same questions is because from what i've seen of late all he has done is respond to your posts. He hasn't, for instance, linked something he posted on here or at Caz's place, in Harry's Blog, like you did with this and a previous post.

Maybe he has "started it" previously, but honestly, isn't that a childish argument?

I myself am on a couple months break, so thats why i've got time to "follow" your little spat. But, trust me, it's long past "amusing". It's now bordering on obsessive.

But, hey, it's your blog and your life. Do with it what you will.


12/10/07 10:31 AM  
Anonymous Jacob said...

"Trust you", Tony? From "what you've seen of late"?

You've obviously missed Pahoff ranting on several blogs with the fiction that I called him a racist.

I've called him a bigot on several occasions, including at the "blog of record", WD.

Obsessive? Pahoff doesn't forgive.

You may have missed Pahoff's various rages at Harry's in which I've variously been accused of bigotry, fascism, and applying my mouthparts to his other hate objects.


You may have missed my invitation at Harry's for Pahoff to come here and "slug it out" rather than dump all of his puerile shit at Harry's.

Of course rather than present himself in the light of day, he trolls with a sockpuppet. You must have missed that.

And apparently you see the behaviour of Pahoff in all this, including a few minutes ago, as normal.

"Trust you", Tony? Hilarious.

12/10/07 11:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jacob, when i said But, trust me, it's long past "amusing". It's now bordering on obsessive. I was referring to BOTH of you.

I did notice after I sent my last post that Geoff has in fact cross posted on Harry's blog. As I said, it's long past amusing.

But clearly you are both beyond reason. So you deserve each other.



12/10/07 3:26 PM  
Anonymous Jacob said...

Fair enough, Tony, I see now you're trying to be even-handed. My apologies for being short with you.

And yes, it's past amusing, if it ever was. My intention wasn't to amuse, of course, and people are quite free to surf on past.

If Pahoff's started again over there, then maybe you could do the peacemaker thing there too. Bet Harry and the others would appreciate it.


12/10/07 4:56 PM  
Anonymous Jacob said...

TonyP said: "Jacob, the reason I don't ask Geoff the same questions is because from what i've seen of late all he has done is respond to your posts..."

On reflection, I retract my apology to TonyP because clearly he doesn't know what he's on about.

This and the other posts were my response to the Troll's already well-worn 'Shotgun Stam' rubbish and other hate-Jacob stuff posted at club chaos and at least one other blog.

Realising no-one gives a rat's arse and will not read this anyway (and not giving a rat's about that myself), still I just wanted to make this clarification.

Jeez, sometimes I'm just too conciliatory by half.

As you were...

** crickets chirruping **

14/10/07 9:45 AM  
Anonymous Harry Heidelberg said...


17/10/07 6:35 AM  

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